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Post by urist on Mar 30, 2010 12:58:08 GMT -8
I'm tired of this inane bullshit.
You all treat me like I'm nonexistent, unreal, fictional, with the exception of Zephyr and Ourosboros. Yet, you all go "HI NEG" or "Cool Guy!" and the like, when someone comes in the chat-box. The only time you pay attention is when I fuck up. You treat me like the 'Fucking New Guy', I come here seeking an RP group, but you seem to think of me as nothing but an asshole. I try to be polite, but you still don't even say 'Hello' to me consistently. It irritates me to no end, that you're acting like elitists, like a majority of the RP groups, If someone cannot RP well, you do not help them. Yes, I'm unwilling to admit a mistake, but that's only because it's embarrassing to me. Now I'm banned from the chat-box, and confined to the forums. I'm in a bad mood today, my morning was shit, my weekend was shit, my birthday was shit, in the words of Stanley Kubrick "I'm in a world of shit... yes. But I am alive. And I am not afraid."
I'm not leaving, just ranting.
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Post by ~♥adverb on Mar 30, 2010 13:13:39 GMT -8
Urist, I never particularly thought badly of you, and I'm very sorry if it came across as though any of us were thinking less of you. I'm a little uncomfortable with people I don't normally interact with, so I may not have been incredibly talkative to you, but I didn't mean it in any disrespect against you as a person. Negative and Cool Guy have been here for much longer and we're all familiar with them, especially Cool Guy as she's the admin of the site, so it would make sense if we seem very happy to see them, but we're happy to see you too! I'm sorry if you feel wronged, and I'm even sorrier to hear you're having a bad day. I understand your feelings, and being honest, I didn't want to offer critique because the last time I did offer critique to someone, I was promptly told to bugger off and that I 'didn't know their style' and I'm trying to avoid offending anyone.
I know even if I'm on pretty good terms with most people around here, there are some people I'm a lot closer to than others, just through more interaction and more RP-ing.
I don't know if that helped at all. If not, you can just ignore me. I'm not the best at being helpful.
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Post by urist on Mar 30, 2010 13:15:16 GMT -8
All I can say, Thanks.
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Post by Administrator on Mar 30, 2010 14:03:31 GMT -8
Uristttt it's not that we're singling you out. I just kept getting too many complaints to ignore it any longer. I like you a lot personally and I feel badly you feel this way ;n; people are just too offended by how you treat them or what you say to them. We're nice to all our members and I really wish it didn't have to come to that.
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Post by urist on Mar 30, 2010 14:09:20 GMT -8
All I wanna know, how long am I banned from the chatbox.
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Post by Administrator on Mar 30, 2010 14:10:55 GMT -8
3 days unless yanno you can show me you'll behave yourself and apologize to the folks who need to be apologized to
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Post by urist on Mar 30, 2010 14:16:46 GMT -8
Specifically whom?
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Post by ╝ Sinner ╚ on Mar 30, 2010 14:29:45 GMT -8
Being unwilling to admit mistakes isn't really a matter of being embarrassed. When you refuse to admit, them, too, it prevents you from improving yourself. I personally would see that as a matter of pride. Either way, your cbox ban, though I was not there, was apparently warranted and you were given warnings.
Negative repeatedly had to ask you a question and you refused to answer, at least, last night. I also prompted you to answer. Not to mention that I asked you privately to be conscious of not letting your character have or gain characteristics without plausible explanation before that issue, which was along the same lines, came up.
Honestly, I find that we're an incredibly warm group. While it's always awkward for new members, we're generally a gracious and understanding bunch.
I don't think you're a bad guy. I just think that sometimes you say things without thinking about them. It's just incredibly hard to be welcoming when one of the first things you did was call two members "perverts" for their role-play. While you may have been joking, that, and the constant pestering, was the first impression most of us got. Not to mention other uncalled for OOC comments that infringe on other's role-plays. Thus it could be understood that we're cold at times.
Perhaps we would also be more inclined to be friendly to you if you didn't make us feel used. I haven't seen any attempt on your part to get to know us as people. I've pretty much just seen begging for role-plays, regardless of whether it's an inappropriate time or not. Frankly, it just seems like we're being used for your own role-playing gratification without any consideration for the people behind the names.
You say we treat you as if you're fictional, but frankly, that's how we feel you treat us, too. At least me, though I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on the sentiment.
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Post by urist on Mar 30, 2010 14:38:32 GMT -8
At least you are honest and vocal. I apologize for my inherent inability to realize the moment is not quite appropriate. Last night, however, was a bit of a problem. I was helping my dad out, we had to go and sell some books at half-price books, sorry.
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Post by ♫ e s h e ♪ on Mar 30, 2010 15:28:23 GMT -8
Well I'm sorry you feel so disrespected and unwelcome, and I'm sorry for your gloomy day and weekend, but since I first met you in the Cbox... I've gotten this vain and demanding vibe from you. It's always there, and I am constantly unnerved by your thoughtless comments. Everyone is free to express their opinion here, but there is a level of maturity that you need to maintain. Saying "Ooooh sexy rape scene" during an RP where I am playing the character who is doing the act makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. And you prodding and prodding in on a private RP makes me feel pressured and trapped. Not to mention you constantly bragging about your characters makes me feel used, like Sinner pointed out. Once you even tried to get me to RP with you by saying how your character would completely triumph over mine. And all that begging and pleading and asking over and over and over for an RP is just frankly irritating. Watch other members. See how we react with one another and you might better understand how to confront people. For example, holding out a figurative "Character Box" is a more discrete and polite way of asking others if they'd like to RP. If you don't get an answer after a few times, move on and see what else you can do. Plus no one should feel forced to RP. Ever.
I've never felt this level of brashness from any other member.
If anything, I would try to think about what your fingers are typing before it pops up. Not everyone's comments are taken the same way. While you may be trying to be funny, or to liven up the mood, other people might be offended. I know I've felt that way toward something you've said; plenty of times. u.u
I've always tried to be polite and patient toward you, but I really care for everyone here and if I see them reacting to anyone in a way where they have been unsettled... I won't hesitate to step in. This is a mature site, and we tend to cover mature topics in our RPs. Not to mention a fairly dark and profound fandom. We need a certain level of maturity and consideration from all our members. Try to think of the people behind the names. Many of us are going through a hard time as well... perhaps more-so than yourself. We are real and we all have our own stories to tell.
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Post by urist on Mar 30, 2010 15:35:40 GMT -8
I'm sorry, Kazu, I am indeed brash, but that is simply because I do not hide anything. This 'Character box' you speak of, I cannot do this to any extent, considering I've only one, it'd be stupid, to be honest.
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Post by ♫ e s h e ♪ on Mar 30, 2010 15:42:44 GMT -8
Ever heard the quote "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"? Everyone has their own thoughts, and part of being mature is knowing when to publicly display those thoughts.
And it was just a suggestion. C:
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Post by setsup on Mar 30, 2010 17:44:26 GMT -8
Welcome to the Internet, sir.
Adverb is right - people who are well-known and/or regulars tend to be greeted by name. Some of us, the "NAAAAAAME~" is about as far as it goes. Some users are known by position, but the majority of us are remembered for the characters we play. Having a memorable, personable character can go a long way.
That said, I don't know yours, really.
When I first encountered you, you were in the oocbox inquiring about what sorts of weapons were allowed - specifically firearms. You seem quite knowledgeable about them in general, what with quoting technical specs and all... the same can't really be said for the rest of us, I'm afraid. I own a .38 myself, but I can't name you all the parts of it or tell you what the optimal firing rate is. Rather than get annoyed, as you seemed to do, when we couldn't answer your questions to your satisfaction and pointed you towards the site admin, it would have helped I think to post some links to the weapons you were talking about (learning new things can be fun!). After that, you had your application up and immediately began inquiring as to when the mods would get around to looking at/approving it. FYI, that's a cardinal mistake just about anywhere. Keep in mind we don't all have the same duties, we're all in different time zones and have different schedules. Patience is a virtue. The pestering for RP I honestly don't know much about - I'm not exactly a chatbox regular, since I concentrate on the threads.
The Source is a forum. It is primarily a forum. You're not being confined, sir - you're getting an opportunity to work on character development in a new way. ...just be sure you follow the posting guidelines.
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Post by claptrapninja on Mar 31, 2010 6:04:32 GMT -8
I've been in the cbox longer then you but mostly I'm not really well known. This is because I don't really have any memorable characters and I can't really post in the forums to often because my internet likes to turn off randomly.
But it doesn't bother me in the least (okay,maybe a little bit),I do know where you are coming from,but it was no reason to post something like this.
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Post by Administrator on Mar 31, 2010 9:48:27 GMT -8
Trap, you know that's totally not true and i have a total crush on 100 ;o
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